FIVE QUESTIONS FOR Daniela Schiller
Daniela Schiller served in the Israeli army,
but it was not until she went parachuting
during college that she truly understood
the power of fear. Now she is building on
that epiphany as a postdoc at New York
University, studying memory and fear
with leading neuroscientists Elizabeth
Phelps and Joseph LeDoux.
WHY ARE YOU SO FASCINATED BY FEAR? I went
free-fall parachuting 11 times, but the fear
never went away. Fear is a motivator that
can warn us about danger, but one fearful
experience can make us afraid for a long
time. Most anxiety disorders result when we
can’t control fear.
HOW ARE YOU TRYING TO CONQUER FEAR? We
expose people to a stimulus paired with an
electric shock. After multiple times, just seeing
the stimulus scares them because they associate it with shock. We are investigating a way
to reactivate the fear memory by presenting the
stimulus, but without the shock. If you do this
while the memory is being reconsolidated—put
back into storage—you would expect the properties of that memory to change so it is no longer
associated with fear.
HOW CAN YOU GET RID OF A MEMORY AFTER IT
IS IMPRINTED IN THE BRAIN? When a memory
is formed it is consolidated, but each time
it’s retrieved it becomes unstable again.
This allows you to update the memory.
Let’s say you meet someone at a party, you
form a memory of them, and a week later
you hear gossip about that person. Now you
retrieve the memory and store it with new
information. In experiments with animals, if
we retrieve a memory and inject a drug that
blocks the molecular process that leads to
storage, the memory is lost.
SO PEOPLE MIGHT POP A PILL TO GET RID OF
ANXIETY OR BAD MEMORIES? Rather than
injecting drugs, our lab injects new content
into a memory, updating it with non-fearful
information. When we lose control over
fear, distorted emotions interfere with
our lives. Reducing fear has implications for treating post-traumatic stress
disorder, phobias, and addiction.
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU’RE NOT
PLAYING WITH EMOTIONS? I play drums
in a rock band with Joe LeDoux called
The Amygdaloids. Once we spent five
days recording in the Hamptons—we felt
like rock stars. Amy Barth
ETHAN HILL